Legislature(2003 - 2004)

02/12/2004 01:35 PM Senate L&C

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           SB 278-LABOR & WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FEES                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR CON BUNDE announced SB 278 to be up for consideration.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR GARY  STEVENS moved to  adopt CSSB 278(L&C),  version \D.                                                               
There were no objections and it was so ordered.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  GREG O'CLARAY,  Department of  Labor and  Workforce                                                               
Development (DOLWD), explained that in  general terms SB 278 is a                                                               
user fee  bill that offsets  some of  the operating costs  of the                                                               
Division of Labor Standards and  Safety. He deferred questions on                                                               
the  fees  to Mr.  Grey  Mitchell,  Director, Division  of  Labor                                                               
Standards and Safety, but had a  question about what was meant by                                                               
"instructional devices".                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  responded that  this bill would  be heard  again and                                                               
those questions would be answered then.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GREY MITCHELL,  Director, Division  of  Labor Standards  and                                                               
Safety,  DOLWD,   said  the  fees  will   help  fund  enforcement                                                               
enhancements  in  the  Mechanical Inspection  Section,  including                                                               
filling a vacant position, and  replace revenue reductions in the                                                               
Wage and Hour Section.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
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TAPE 04-09, SIDE B                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HOLLIS FRENCH  asked who  inspects ski  tows and  ferris                                                               
wheels now.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  replied that amusement  rides are inspected  by the                                                               
Mechanical Inspection Section of  the Division of Labor Standards                                                               
and  Safety.  Currently  all inspections  are  performed  by  one                                                               
person.  He  related  that certifying  inspectors  for  amusement                                                               
rides  is very  expensive and  has to  be done  every two  years.                                                               
Typically, they  are sent to  either California or  Florida where                                                               
there  are a  lot of  amusement rides  - and  this fee  will help                                                               
defray the cost of those trips.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  how much the state currently  charges to do                                                               
the inspections.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied that right now there is no fee.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked him to explain what a boiler operator does.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  answered that  they are  licensed to  do particular                                                               
types  of work  on  particular  types of  boilers.  The State  of                                                               
Alaska has  four different classes  of boiler  operator licenses.                                                               
In  SB 278,  AS 18.60.395  requires them  to be  licensed by  the                                                               
DOLWD.  Currently, there  is  no  fee nor  is  there a  statutory                                                               
requirement for anyone to have the license.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  if inspectors are now going  to be required                                                               
to have  a license and  that they would have  to pay $200  to get                                                               
it.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL  defended his position  saying the  statute requires                                                               
the DOLWD to provide a  license. Historically, the department has                                                               
not  required   licensing,  but  some  employers   and  different                                                               
insurance companies  want to have  the people who are  working on                                                               
boilers in their facilities to be licensed.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     That is what  we're dealing with. It's  not a statutory                                                                    
     requirement and we don't propose  to have one, but if a                                                                    
     person does want to come  out and get licensed, we want                                                                    
     to charge them a fee for it.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE commented that the  policy for getting a beautician's                                                               
license was  revenue neutral  and maybe this  is a  reflection of                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked whom exactly this would cover.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied  that it would apply to the  group of people                                                               
who  currently  have licenses,  but  not  everyone who  works  on                                                               
boilers in  general. Probably individuals  working on  the larger                                                               
boilers would  fit the  bill the  best. Alaska  has approximately                                                               
978  individuals  who have  boiler  operator's  licenses, but  he                                                               
didn't  know  how many  are  currently  working. There  were  300                                                               
renewals last year, which is  the figure the department based its                                                               
estimate on.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked if, in  the past, the department  has licensed                                                               
boiler operators as  a courtesy for some employers,  but now they                                                               
will charge a fee for the licensing.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL said that is correct.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE asked  if the voluntary flex work  hour plan (section                                                               
4) meant that  an employee would work four-tens  instead of five-                                                               
eights or something like that.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked if the  state requires  a flex schedule  to be                                                               
filed with the DOLWD.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied yes, because  by statute flex schedules must                                                               
be exempted from overtime.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE  asked him to  expand on the building  safety account                                                               
in section 6.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL explained  that the building safety  account was put                                                               
into  place last  year  and is  basically a  way  to provide  the                                                               
Mechanical  Inspection  Section  some accountability.  Section  6                                                               
directs  the fees  that are  charged  by that  section into  that                                                               
account and inspection services are paid out of it.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  FRENCH  asked  how  many  people  he  thought  would  be                                                               
affected  by   section  3  that   deals  with   applications  and                                                               
examination fees for journeymen and trainees.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  MITCHELL replied  that section  would affect  3,300 plumbers                                                               
and electricians  - about 60  percent in the  electrical category                                                               
and about 40 percent in the plumber category.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR FRENCH asked  how the revenue neutral  concept applies to                                                               
this category and what is the reason behind increasing the fees.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. MITCHELL replied  that the department has come up  short in a                                                               
few  areas  in the  Mechanical  Inspection  Section due  to  cost                                                               
increases.  As a  result, an  electrical  inspector position  has                                                               
been  left vacant.  The fees  would first  be used  to fill  that                                                               
position and then another position  would be added. Currently, he                                                               
declared, only one inspector covers the entire State of Alaska.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked why the state  needs to know if an employer                                                               
has a flexible work schedule plan (regarding section 4).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY  replied that  Alaska's basic  overtime law                                                               
requires the department  to approve any change  in the eight-hour                                                               
day  work schedule.  Over 240  exemptions were  filed last  year.                                                               
History has  shown that many  employers try to take  advantage of                                                               
employees and that's why laws like this are on the books.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS asked  if all employers who want  a flexible work                                                               
plan must file through this system.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER O'CLARAY answered that is correct.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BUNDE said they  would set SB 278 aside and  hear it in the                                                               
near future.                                                                                                                    

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